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		<title>Comment on The Pedagogy of MOOCs by Peeragogy: por uma pedagogia não hierárquica &#124; Sociotramas</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Peeragogy: por uma pedagogia não hierárquica &#124; Sociotramas]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 May 2013 00:48:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] comentário muito atual, pois como discute Paul Stacey em seu recente artigo “The Pedagogy of MOOCs”, muitas das mais celebradas iniciativas neste segmento têm ficado restritas a serem gratuitas e [&#8230;]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] comentário muito atual, pois como discute Paul Stacey em seu recente artigo “The Pedagogy of MOOCs”, muitas das mais celebradas iniciativas neste segmento têm ficado restritas a serem gratuitas e [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Pedagogy of MOOCs by Benjamin Stewart (@bnleez)</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Benjamin Stewart (@bnleez)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 May 2013 14:33:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;How can you effectively teach thousands of students simultaneously?&quot; &quot;...how well are MOOC’s doing at actually successfully teaching those students?&quot;

Although I appreciate the survey, I would ask a different question: How can learning designs best promote (S) sustainability of learning, (C) learner cooperatives, (H) hybrid designs that offer various entry points for learners, (O) openness (reuse, revise, remix, &amp; redistribute content, processes, etc.), (O) online synchronic/asynchronic learning, (L) networked, pedagogical patterns of learning achievement (SCHOOL). 

When asking pedagogical questions about the effectiveness of MOOCs or the effectiveness of teaching thousands of students simultaneously, the tendency, IMHO, is to suggest that learning comes from a single individual or a predetermined set of individuals (i.e., teacher, facilitator, moderators, etc.).  More often than not, instruction emerges from others through performance.  Personal example: learning more in CCK08 through interaction, performance, and subsequent relationships with other educators I just had met than from the CCK08 facilitators themselves.

Also,asking pedagogical questions about the effectiveness of MOOCs or the effectiveness of teaching thousands of students simultaneously, assumes a direct cause-and-effect relationship between &quot;teaching&quot; among an individual or a set of individuals and learning (if an agreement of learning could even be had) among a different set of individuals.  Cause-and-effect relationships are the antithesis to complex systems, which underpin any honest considerations to an effective, efficient, and engaging learning design.  So, to ask questions related to &quot;pedagogical effectiveness&quot;, assume an &quot;answer&quot; in terms of a holistic set of aggregate associations whereby individuals are teaching and learning individually and connectively (recursively and mutually), adopting ideas, technologies, and relationships, and adapting to an ever-changing ideational, material, and relational (learning) ecosystem.

So, in reflecting on how networked pedagogical patterns might emerge in order to promote the greatest degree of learning across a network, I would refrain from forcing a K-12/MOOCish &quot;dichotomy&quot; into a discussion, since K-12 pedagogy addresses a direct cause-and-effect relationship where MOOCish designs lean towards a more holistic set of associations across a network. 

In a SCHOOL environment (see above), it&#039;s simple (albeit complex) to see how multiple (individual) case studies might begin to shed light on patterns that foster and hinder learning across a network.  But such research relies on an epistemological, ontological, axiological worldview based on complexity, non-linear processes, and emergentism as its base.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;How can you effectively teach thousands of students simultaneously?&#8221; &#8220;&#8230;how well are MOOC’s doing at actually successfully teaching those students?&#8221;</p>
<p>Although I appreciate the survey, I would ask a different question: How can learning designs best promote (S) sustainability of learning, (C) learner cooperatives, (H) hybrid designs that offer various entry points for learners, (O) openness (reuse, revise, remix, &amp; redistribute content, processes, etc.), (O) online synchronic/asynchronic learning, (L) networked, pedagogical patterns of learning achievement (SCHOOL). </p>
<p>When asking pedagogical questions about the effectiveness of MOOCs or the effectiveness of teaching thousands of students simultaneously, the tendency, IMHO, is to suggest that learning comes from a single individual or a predetermined set of individuals (i.e., teacher, facilitator, moderators, etc.).  More often than not, instruction emerges from others through performance.  Personal example: learning more in CCK08 through interaction, performance, and subsequent relationships with other educators I just had met than from the CCK08 facilitators themselves.</p>
<p>Also,asking pedagogical questions about the effectiveness of MOOCs or the effectiveness of teaching thousands of students simultaneously, assumes a direct cause-and-effect relationship between &#8220;teaching&#8221; among an individual or a set of individuals and learning (if an agreement of learning could even be had) among a different set of individuals.  Cause-and-effect relationships are the antithesis to complex systems, which underpin any honest considerations to an effective, efficient, and engaging learning design.  So, to ask questions related to &#8220;pedagogical effectiveness&#8221;, assume an &#8220;answer&#8221; in terms of a holistic set of aggregate associations whereby individuals are teaching and learning individually and connectively (recursively and mutually), adopting ideas, technologies, and relationships, and adapting to an ever-changing ideational, material, and relational (learning) ecosystem.</p>
<p>So, in reflecting on how networked pedagogical patterns might emerge in order to promote the greatest degree of learning across a network, I would refrain from forcing a K-12/MOOCish &#8220;dichotomy&#8221; into a discussion, since K-12 pedagogy addresses a direct cause-and-effect relationship where MOOCish designs lean towards a more holistic set of associations across a network. </p>
<p>In a SCHOOL environment (see above), it&#8217;s simple (albeit complex) to see how multiple (individual) case studies might begin to shed light on patterns that foster and hinder learning across a network.  But such research relies on an epistemological, ontological, axiological worldview based on complexity, non-linear processes, and emergentism as its base.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Pedagogy of MOOCs by anuvamailbox</title>
		<link>http://edtechfrontier.com/2013/05/11/the-pedagogy-of-moocs/#comment-2065</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 18 May 2013 10:59:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[keep going.................]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>keep going&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Pedagogy of MOOCs by Barbara</title>
		<link>http://edtechfrontier.com/2013/05/11/the-pedagogy-of-moocs/#comment-2064</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Barbara]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 May 2013 09:47:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Reblogged this on &lt;a href=&quot;http://mostlytechnology.wordpress.com/2013/05/18/the-pedagogy-of-moocs/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Mostly Technology &amp; Teaching&lt;/a&gt;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reblogged this on <a href="http://mostlytechnology.wordpress.com/2013/05/18/the-pedagogy-of-moocs/" rel="nofollow">Mostly Technology &amp; Teaching</a>.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Pedagogy of MOOCs by The Pedagogy of MOOCs &#171; Analyzing Educational Technology</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Pedagogy of MOOCs &#171; Analyzing Educational Technology]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 May 2013 12:04:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] See on edtechfrontier.com [&#8230;]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] See on edtechfrontier.com [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Pedagogy of MOOCs by lorenzo</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 15 May 2013 21:25:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Articolo interessante e colgo l&#039;occasione per complimentarmi per questo sito! veramente ben fatto e con tanti articoli utili!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Articolo interessante e colgo l&#8217;occasione per complimentarmi per questo sito! veramente ben fatto e con tanti articoli utili!</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Pedagogy of MOOCs by My First MOOC! &#124; disrupt learning!</title>
		<link>http://edtechfrontier.com/2013/05/11/the-pedagogy-of-moocs/#comment-2030</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[My First MOOC! &#124; disrupt learning!]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 May 2013 19:57:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] The Pedagogy of MOOCs (edtechfrontier.com) [&#8230;]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] The Pedagogy of MOOCs (edtechfrontier.com) [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Pedagogy of MOOCs by The Pedagogy of MOOCs &#124; Paul Stacey &#124; twithaus</title>
		<link>http://edtechfrontier.com/2013/05/11/the-pedagogy-of-moocs/#comment-2024</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Pedagogy of MOOCs &#124; Paul Stacey &#124; twithaus]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 May 2013 13:22:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] http://edtechfrontier.com/2013/05/11/the-pedagogy-of-moocs/ [&#8230;]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] <a href="http://edtechfrontier.com/2013/05/11/the-pedagogy-of-moocs/" rel="nofollow">http://edtechfrontier.com/2013/05/11/the-pedagogy-of-moocs/</a> [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Pedagogy of MOOCs by How Couse Design Puts the Focus on Learning Not Teaching &#124; online learning insights</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[How Couse Design Puts the Focus on Learning Not Teaching &#124; online learning insights]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 May 2013 04:56:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] design, also known as learning design, appears to be making a comeback, which is most fortunate given that I am writing a series on this very topic. Massive open online [&#8230;]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] design, also known as learning design, appears to be making a comeback, which is most fortunate given that I am writing a series on this very topic. Massive open online [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Pedagogy of MOOCs by Dr. Nellie Deutsch (@nelliemuller)</title>
		<link>http://edtechfrontier.com/2013/05/11/the-pedagogy-of-moocs/#comment-2011</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dr. Nellie Deutsch (@nelliemuller)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 May 2013 17:29:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Paul,

Thank you for sharing the truth about the origins of MOOCs. It&#039;s time, the pioneers got credit for what they did. I miss the connections we had as a result of those MOOCs.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Paul,</p>
<p>Thank you for sharing the truth about the origins of MOOCs. It&#8217;s time, the pioneers got credit for what they did. I miss the connections we had as a result of those MOOCs.</p>
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